(Clearwisdom.net) Recently, the World Organization to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong (WOIPFG) conducted an investigation of the Chinese Communist Party's harvesting organs from Falun Gong practitioners. The updated evidence show that organ harvesting still exists in China. Illegally arrested Falun Gong practitioners who refuse to report their names are the victims of the crime [Note: because of the CCP's policy of implicating and harassing Falun Gong practitioners' family members, associates and work units, practitioners often refuse to give their names when they are arrested]. The organ harvesting reached its peak in 2003. After 2003, it went underground but it is still going on. The crime has been covered and protected by the legal system in China. The organ transplant institutions within the military system are suspected of being involved in this crime.

Investigators from WOIPFG contacted the kidney transplant market traders for the 307 Hospital of the Chinese People's Liberation Army. The whole investigation lasted a few weeks and the total phone conversation is about one hour. WOIPFG has the recordings and a transcript of the phone conversation. Below is an excerpt. Any organizations or individuals who need more information can contact WOIPFG for a complete transcript.

  1. Organ harvesting reached its peak in 2003 and is still going on

WOIPFG: Hello, I have spoken with you before. Have you found any kidney sources? How is it going?

Trader: Do you mean the kidneys from prison? Or?

WOIPFG: Yes. Or Falun Gong practitioners.

Trader: I am still looking for it. Let me tell you the truth. All the kidneys I have found are from Falun Gong.

WOIPFG: I told you before. Please help me as soon as you find ones from Falun Gong.

Trader: I also told you before, I have found two kidneys from Falun Gong for other patients.

WOIPFG: Two kidneys from Falun Gong practitioners?

Trader: Yes. I have done two cases. According to the prison, they were from Falun Gong. But now, it is a little difficult.

WOIPFG: How did you know they were from Falun Gong?

Trader: When I find the kidney, I will show you the documents. So, don't worry. We will show you the documents.

WOIPFG: OK. Good.

Trader: We have the personal documents to prove they are from Falun Gong.

WOIPFG: OK. There were a lot of cases like this in 2003, right?

Trader: Yes. In 2003, there were lots of kidneys from Falun Gong.

WOIPFG: Does that mean it was very easy to get organs from Falun Gong in 2003?

Trader: Yes. Tell you the truth, the two cases I have done were in 2003.

  1. Falun Gong practitioners who were arrested and refused to report their names were the major victims

WOIPFG: I heard that few years ago, Falun Gong practitioners refused to report their names when arrested, so they were jailed in the secret places.

Trader: Yes. It was like that in 2003. Before 2003, they refused to report their names when arrested, but now it is different.

WOIPFG: OK.

Trader: I mean, it is very difficult to find the organ sources now.

WOIPFG: OK.

Trader: Very difficult. So, I have to find the ones documented in 2003. Do you understand?

WOIPFG: OK.

Trader: I made several phone calls, looking for Falun Gong. I called my boss and other people. They told me that they have to find the ones arrested in 2003.

WOIPFG: OK.

Trader: Most of Falun Gong practitioners have been sent to the prisons in other cities. I have to contact those prisons. And they will get the most of the money.

WOIPFG: I heard that it is rigorous now. They should not ask for too much money. Do you understand? They jailed Falun Gong practitioners secretly, because their names are unknown.

Trader: Yes. That is normal. They don't have their names, but they numbered them.

WOIPFG: OK.

Trader: They don't have names, but everyone has a number and has been documented.

WOIPFG: OK, I see. Don't they have their real names?

Trader: They cannot find their real names, so, they are just numbers.

  1. Harvesting organs from Falun Gong practitioners was semi-public around 2003; now, it is carried out in secret

WOIPFG: Where did you find the kidney sources before?

Trader: From Xicheng District

WOIPFG: Can't you find any from Xicheng again?

Trader: It is hard now.

WOIPFG: OK. Tell me how much they ask for for them?

Trader: If you really need it, you have to get several thousand [yuan] ready.

WOIPFG: Tell me how much exactly.

Trader: Twenty or thirty thousand. But 20 or 30 thousand is just the down payment. You need to pay more later.

WOIPFG: OK.

Trader: You have to pay more later. Do you understand?

WOIPFG: How much?

Trader: I am just a trader. I think they need at least 200 thousand later. I can hook you up. How much it costs depends on them. I guess you need to pay at least 200 thousand.

WOIPFG: OK.

Trader: You know, there are rules in this business. I am not playing with you on the phone. It is very risky. If you really want it, I will look for it. But I also need to know you before I do it for you. Do you understand?

WOIPFG: Oh, yes. I understand.

Trader: You need to give me some documents and I need to make sure that I can trust you. Otherwise, I cannot do it for you no matter how much you give me. Do you understand?

WOIPFG: Yes, I see.

Trader: My partners said if we cannot trust you, then we won't do it for you no matter how much you pay us.

  1. Organ harvesting crimes have been covered up and protected by the legal system in China

WOIPFG: I have one more question...

Trader: Let me tell you the truth. We are protected by the government officials. We have connections with the government. I can show you some documents.

WOIPFG: Hmm. Do you mean that you have connections with police departments?

Trader: Well, I cannot tell you too much.

WOIPFG: OK, OK.

Trader: I cannot tell you too much. We have connections in many systems. You know, we have rules in this business.

WOIPFG: Good.

Trader: I, I...... I cannot tell you too much now. Do you understand?

WOIPFG: OK. Can I see the source before the transplant?

Trader: No problem.

WOIPFG: Good. I still have a question--are they jailed in prisons or labor camps? I heard that most of them are jailed in the police stations.

Trader: There are not very many in the labor camps nowadays.

WOIPFG: Well, where are they jailed then?

Trader: Most of them are in prisons. The ones from Beijing are jailed in other cities. So, I need to make contact with the prisons in other cities. Most of them were sentenced to eight or ten years.

WOIPFG: Hmm. So, they are not jailed in the detention centers or labor camps.

Trader: They were jailed in detention centers at the beginning, then they were sentenced, and then they were transferred to prisons.

WOIPFG: OK.

Trader: They will give you the documents later.

Trader: Let me tell you: we cannot give you too many details. After the whole thing is done, we still cannot give you all the names and other details.

WOIPFG: OK.

Trader: I cannot tell you my connections with the police stations. Even after the transplant, I still cannot tell you the names and other secrets. Otherwise, I cannot stay in this business.

WOIPFG: I understand. I only have two requirements: First, I need to see the source. I must know where he is from and I need to make sure that he is a Falun Gong practitioner. Second, I need to know the doctor. I need make sure he has the techniques to do the transplant, and he is qualified.

Trader: Of course. We cannot do this thing casually. I have many connections, otherwise I cannot do this business. Without connections nothing can be done.

WOIPFG: Right.

Trader: We have a whole system, you know.

WOIPFG: Right.

WOIPFG: Are you going to make contact with the prisons or the police stations?

Trader: Are you asking how I am going to find the source? Didn't I tell you that I cannot give you too many details? I might contact the detention centers in the Xicheng, Haidian or Qinghe districts. But I cannot tell you too much. I have never met you. How can I give you all the details? It is impossible.

  1. Organ transplant institutions within the military system are suspected of being involved in illegal organ harvesting

WOIPFG: That is fine. Let's set a time and I will pay you 30 thousand first.

Trader: You need to come to my place. I will definitely not go to your place. You come here, and I will bring you to my boss.

WOIPFG: Tell me how to find you.

Trader: Can you find the 307 Hospital of the Chinese People's Liberation Army?

WOIPFG: Sure. Which department of 307 Hospital?

Trader: You don't have to go inside. Just come to the gate of the hospital.

WOIPFG: OK.

Trader: Do you know where the 307 Hospital is?

WOIPFG: Yes. How can I recognize you?

Trader: Don't worry. Call me when you are at the gate. I am in the building and I can see you.

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Category: Organ Harvesting